Jw. 5 years ago. 4 years ago. I don't know, but frieza talked about bardock in the anime and there is a manga of bardock so I think it's canon. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. In the original (non-canon) Bardock: Father of Goku special, Bardock received psychic visions from a dying alien that alerted him to Frieza's plan. save hide report. level 1. His hair also stands up in the front with 5 spikes and 4 in the back. He comments that Goku looks like Bardock. He is included in the manga and is also referred to by name during Freeza's flashback. Episode of Bardock (where he goes SSJ) is NOT. In this chapter, Goku arrives at the battlefield to meet Freeza. This story is safe to be considered either way. 6,953 927. In the second panel, Freeza refers to Bardock by name (バーダック). I don't consider the Episode of Bardock canon because if that was the case they should've been told that story years ago. 5. Broly, Bardock are both Canon. Bardock as a character was NOT created by Toriyama so according to this logic, even the Bardock special wasn't canon. Bardock attacking Frieza's death ball and the final shot of him being consumed by it are the main contributions to the film of the original special. Just wondering. 1. That sucked, and Toriyama would agree with me. If you don't consider it canon, it's still ok. I thought it was cemented after the new Bardock special where he goes Super Saiyan. In the end you'll just reread the first sentence of this post again and reach the same conclusion as me. This story is safe to be considered either way. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! The interviewer actually specifies the film in their question. in my opinion minus is supposed to just be a fun little thing for fans, nothing more. Yep, he shows up in a flashback during the manga http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ultimate_Battle_Begins! Cordialement. Broly is debatable. Here is the brief overview of how Bardock appeared in the manga: In chapter 196, when Raditz comes to Earth, he mentions that Goku looks just like his father. It's more like a spin-off (the manga and the episode). Some might say "it wasn't created by Toriyama so it's not canon". With the exception of Dragon Ball Evolution. Having learned of the legend of the Super Saiyan, he orders all Saiyans back to the planet so he could wipe most of them out at once. He did like the character of Bardock and decided to make him canon but the story itself was never ever stated to be canon. IMO, aspects of it can still be canon, but the feature itself in its entirety cannot. Not true. Fatdude (talk) 15:19, July 27, 2012 (UTC). If that's the case, your canonical version of Bardock's character, story, life, and events would be within the pages of "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman," not Naho Ooishi's tale. Actually, Bardock: Father of Goku, is likewise non-canon now. he mentions that Goku looks just like his father, http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ultimate_Battle_Begins, he is reminded of when Bardock confronted him before he destroyed planet Vegeta. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The story follows Bardock, Goku's father, who is sent back to Planet Vegeta by orders of Frieza. But Episode of Bardock contradicts that. Thats a new one to me. Just recently, probably about a year or two that episode has been out and people automatically and seriously place it as being canon and apart of the immediate story. Can someone explain why he isnt? Unlike his younger son, he has a tanner skin-tone and his eyes are more defined and sterner, much like his elder son. Later on, Toei animation made "Bardock - The Father of Goku" which is a TV special that aired on 1990 in Japan. RELATED: Dragon Ball: 10 Best Filler Episodes (That Should Be Canon) Cookies help us deliver our Services. Bardock was a low-class Saiyan mercenary who leds a small platoon, comprised of four other Saiyan soldiers. As noted by Raditz and Frieza, Bardock bears a striking resemblance to Goku: he is a tall man of muscular built with black hair. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. [[Category:{{{1}}}|Episode of Bardock Canon? The most basic level of canonicity that fans tend to agree on is "written and drawn by Toriyama himself, and exclusively so." I'd think so, I recall Akira writing a story about Bardock and Gine, Goku's mother. This thread is archived. While we are on the subject of canon characters, would Tarble be considered canon now because he was mentioned in BoG? *spoilres for the Bardock movie and Dragonball manga** Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. It was not in Toriyama's original manga, therefore it is not canon. He did (to my shock) designed Broly, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Sysop. Thread starter ByAsura; Start date Today at 07:50; ByAsura. level 1. i dont see why the minus chapters in jaco should be considered canon. Is ssj Bardock canon? share. Dragon Ball Super: Broly Watch Queue Queue If you want to consider it canon it's ok, doesn't change anything in the main storyline. Likewise, there's the Dragon Ball Minus chapter of the Toriyama manga Jaco: Space Patrolman that deals with Bardock and his wife Gine, as well as the events leading up to Goku being sent to Earth. In Dragon Ball Super: Broly, Bardock uses the Final Spirit Cannon in the form of an energy wave, the sole attack confronting Frieza's Supernova. Speaking of poor Bardock, Dragon Ball Super: Broly really did a number on him for no good reason. (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ultimate_Battle_Begins!)" Question. Ain't no way in the fuck Bardock survived that blast from Frieza and went back in time and fought his ancestor named Chilled (even the name is stupid) so I nevermind that fan made shit. When Freeza sees Goku, he is reminded of when Bardock confronted him before he destroyed planet Vegeta. Close. The "legendary Super Saiyan" in the context of the manga seemed to let live several centuries ago, and AT has 1) Not spoke out on Broly's canonicity and 2) Hasn't done anything to tie him to canon. I've searched around but I still don't have a clear answer. He was eventually destroyed by his own overwhelming power. one of my favorite dbz movies tbh. He is included in the manga and is also referred to by name during Freeza's flashback. Okay so I just finished watching movie adaption of Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock and I'm confused. Dragon Ball Minus: The Departure of the Fated Child is a 2014 special chapter that ties into the plot of Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, another Akira Toriyama manga that Dragon Ball Super fans know is, in fact, canon to the main Dragon Ball Supertimeline. In 1991, chapter 307 "[The Ultimate Battle Begins!] Archived. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! Bardock himself is canon. Bardock (バーダック, Bādakku), Burdock in Viz Media's English manga translation, is a fictional character from the Dragon Ball media franchise. Therefore, yes, Bardock is considered a canon character. Created by Toei Animation based on series protagonist Goku's visual design by franchise creator Akira Toriyama, he first appears in the animated television special Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku as its morally ambiguous protagonist. In DBZ, the super saiyans myths were traced back to a saiyan on the original homeworld of the saiyans who became the first SSJ. Did all that stuff in the movie happen, I can't answer that. For one thing, it was a manga and Akira Toriyama helped with it. It is easily o… However, due to the Minus chapter, pretty much everything seen in the Bardock: Father of Goku anime special has been retconned out, and is now considered non-canon. Is ssj Bardock canon? Bardock Father of Goku was not created by Akira. Why do some people say bardock isnt canon. For Dragon Ball: Xenoverse on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Bardock and Broly are no more canon than GT". Bardock certainly is. Toriyama's Dragon Ball Minus chapter of Jaco: Space Patrolman retconned and contradicts several of the major facts established in the Bardock special, thus making the special no longer canon. If you don't consider it canon, it's still ok. Still, he liked Bardock enough to make him canon, to include him in the manga. Bardock as a character was NOT created by Toriyama so according to this logic, even the Bardock special wasn't canon. It was just a side story. Log In to add custom notes to this or any other game. Bardock's introduction in the 1990 TV movie Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku was never considered to be official canon by many. Posted by 1 year ago. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! And your way of ending the discussion is because this wiki don't have a Canon Seal of Quality (that's way DBGT remained not listed as non-canon in this wiki as the same way, the names of characters by Funimation dub instead the manga/japanese animes ones). View Entire Discussion (7 Comments) More posts from the dbz community . Still, he liked Bardock enough to make him canon, to include him in the manga. The Legendary Super Saiyan Broly would gain access to Super Saiyan 4 along with Gohan, Bardock and Vegito. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Episode_of_Bardock_Canon%3F?oldid=1355857. It was more or less made up to promote Dragon Ball Heroes (the video game). Continue browsing in r/dbz. Bardock himself appears in two panels of the manga when Freeza recognizes Goku as being Saiya-jin, and then recognizes that Goku must have been related to the Saiya-jin that made a stand against him right when he destroyed planet Vegeta. There were plans for Trunks to similarly be able to transform into a Super Saiyan 4 in the game but these plans were scrapped when the developers were unsure of what color to have the transformed Saiyan's fur. Bardock is not mentioned by name, nor is he actually shown during this time. His wife Gine was also part of Bardock's team at one point. (Dragon Ball Z & Dragon Ball Minus). Do you guys consider Episode of Bardock canon? He even talks about her, so I believe he is canon. Maybe the plot holes could be … However, after the special, he decided to include him in it. In the manga, Bardock was only mentioned. He did not have any visual image originally. Question. Is Bardock canon? Maybe the plot holes could be explained by Dragon Ball Online, the Time Breakers, so there, you got some logic in the story. In chapter 307, when Goku first appears, Freeza makes the connection that Goku looks like the Saiyan that faced him before he blew up planet Vegeta. This video is unavailable. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Before the Bardock TV special, it is not clear if Akira Toriyama had any plans to include Bardock in the manga at all. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse. ]], Another topic made me think about this. It really doesn't matter, was only created to please the fans. r/dbz. He is included in the manga and is also referred to by name during Freeza's flashback. Bardock makes an appearance in this panel and in this panel as well. Bardock was a low-class Saiyan warrior, the husband of Gine, the father of Raditz and Kakarot, the father-in-law of Chi-Chi, the paternal grandfather of Gohan and Goten, the paternal great-grandfather of Pan, and the ancestor of Goku Jr. It doesn't really make sense now. because he appears in the manga written by Akira Toriyama. So while the overall OVA is not canon, Bardock confronting Frieza just before the planet's destruction is canonn. Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. It was just a side story. Therefore, yes, Bardock is considered a canon character. Aucun des OAV contenant le personnage prénommé Bardock n'est canon. Topic Archived; Page . La seule oeuvre canon concernant Bardock est malheureusement DB Minus. VS Battles. Frieza has decided to eradicate the Saiyans once and for all in order to stop a Super Saiy… Some might say "it wasn't created by Toriyama so it's not canon". Bardock's gone on to become one of the most popular Saiyan warriors in the series, not only appearing in countless videogames but also going on to have two specials detailing his exploits before and after Planet Vegeta's destruction. Canon. of 5; Next ; Last ; You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. of the manga was released. Bardock and Gine were one of the only mated Saiyans whose bond was tied by love for each other rather than for reproductive purposes. I believe it's up to the individual. A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! 32 comments. In this special, Bardock is given the ability to see into the future where Freeza destroys planet Vegeta and almost all of the Saiyan race as well. In the Manga, Frieza sees Goku and remembers Bardock, and it shows him in space confronting him. Today at 07:50 #1 The statement where Toriyama says Bardock is very powerful amongst low-class Saiyans comes from an Episode of Bardock interview, meaning it's non-canon. He even designed Chilled. His hair is unkempt with 3 bangs hanging to the right of his forehead and 2 bangs hanging to the left. Canon is just made up by the fans, there is no true canon in Dragon Ball, because Akira Toriyama has never stated anything to be non-canon, so therefore everything is canon. 69% Upvoted. In other words, Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku should be half-canon. But he didn't write it. Bardock uses this attack in his final attempt to kill Frieza in Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku, however, the Final Spirit Cannon was easily absorbed by Frieza's Supernova which destroys Planet Vegeta, killing Bardock, many of Frieza's soldiers, and the entire Saiyan race (apart from Goku, Vegeta, Tarble, Nappa, Raditz, Turles, Broly, and Paragus). to me its just another fun crossover like cross epoch, or the dream 9 toriko, one piece, dragon ball collaboration special, or the kyutai panic adventure specials, i get the reasoning behind saying that the minus chapters are canon is because toriyama authored them, so the specials are definitely exempt, but saying that the minus chapters are canon is like saying that cross epoch is canon. Again though, I consider the movie to be canon, simply because it's to awesome to not be, imo. Watch Queue Queue. PC PlayStation 3 Xbox 360 Xbox One. Canon Bardock Revision. 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